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PERSONAL

AND CONFIDENTIAL

D.14 NOTE

MEETING

FOR

TO DISCUSS

THE RECORD

POLICY

SEPTEMBER

WORK

AT NO 11;DOWNING

STREET

0 1982

Present: Chancellor of the Exchequer Ian Gow MP Mr Cropper Mr Ridley

1.

The principal (i)

conclusions

"Choice'

agreed

that

One possibility

further

were

might

consideration

be to break

the presently

proposed

group

some

might

studied,

of which

Fr Ridley issue

reported

of the

pensions

as follows:

further, dealt

be covered Work"

which

but

with

the subject

smaller

of private by his

needed.

the agenda

group, This

of

elements, abandoned.

suggestion

issues.

it was

was

and some

Mr Higgins'

Trap/'h57

possibility

be

into

transferability

might

"Property

that

the

sector as well

as

was a

agreed

might

be considered

could

equally

well

be

on its own.

Chairman. It was

agreed

Chairmanship discussion

that

the best

of the three would

be

for Nationalised

for Urban

Transport.

Pt seeking

provide

the

eet1

ancointed

Chairmen.

under

for Inner

The Chancellor agreement,

Thomas

could

groups

Industries,

her

The Chancellor

This

policy

for the

and would

Cities, John

Lee

now write

and Mr Ridley

would

draft.

i th

and Hugh

candidates

Tim Sainsbury

Tim Pggar

to the

(ail)

discussion

Group.

It was

(ii

of the

well

would

like

as soon

to see Keith

as conveniently

be arranged

after the economic debate.

to take

Wickenden possible.

place

at Brighton,

0

PERSONAL

(iv)

AND CONFIDENTIAL

Discussions

with

The Chancellor Mr Pym

about

approached both

Ministers.

had

still

the Europe

Mr Walker

Ministers

not

Group,

at all

could

well

Conference.

In Mr Walker's

particularly

helpful

for one

or two

related

areas

about

agricultural

It would

also

involving as soon

the

Policy

be

suggestions

from

the NFU

or

knowledgeably

in the EC Group. to have

a meeting

Mr Gow and Lady

to consider Group,

with

in at the

his

then be important Chancellor,

Talks

case it would

speak

to

not yet

it.

be fitted

matters

as possible

the Family

about

- perhaps

might

at length

and had

to obtain

experts - who

talked

which

important

issues.

Sir Henry

also need

to be taken

on which

an extended

discussion

Young

the membership

of

raise

of

Plumb's MEPs

a number views

would

would be most

suitable. (v)

Members There

was

of candidates

for invitation,

which

is described

Where

Chairmen

to proceed Mr Ridley

were

to tell would

cc:

those

in a separate in place them

prepare

for the Chancellor

the

who

of

the

list

outcome

of

minute.

it wc,ild be possible would

draft

be invited,

letters

and

accordingly

s signature.

present.

-2-

r

J

PERSONAL

AND CONFIDENTIAL

D.14

FROM:

ADAM

RIDLEY

29 September 1982 cc

CHANCELLOR

Mr Cropper

Mr I Gow, No 10 POLICY

WORK

Here

is the typed

up list

of potential

members

our meeting with Ian Gow at 4.00 p.m. tomorrow.

for

It

includes the final shortlist agreed with Terence Higgins at and after

your

discussion

with

him

this

afternoon.

Apart from considering members there remains the issue of the future of the "choice" group, and the draft "Chairmans letter" which I submitted separately and which we could

send

off

directly

it has your

A N RIDIFY

approval.

NO.1.

UNEMPLOYP'ENT

Possible members:

I'.

Lyell 1i?•-AAtI-°`'

M. Wel sh

.

J. Wood Micbael Jackson Jobn Sacber Philip Beck I. Mills or M. Dobbs

Invite suggestions

for further members, especially industrialists.

2.

PROMOTION

OF ENTERPRISE

Possible Members:

N. Neubert H. Miller W. Goldsmith P. Darwin D. Cooksey N. Vinson D. Macdonald J. Ackers ? N.B.

C. Patten ? A Special Adviser.

TI-HE FAMILY

AND WOMEENS'AFFAIRS

Possible Members: B. Mawhinney A. Rumbold

E. Howe

Consider Lady Young's Northern and Scots list. Consider WNAC and Elizabeth Cotterell

<''OLo.

e

a

(CPS?)

5.

EDUCATION

FOR LIFE AND WORK

Members: (i)

Stron

Candidates

H. Greenway J. Pawsey N. Thornton Sir Jack Lewis Professor Alan Cox Nir R Baldwin.

(ii)

Further consideration Consideration

as between

-

LEA experience

-

Headmaster/mistress

N.B.

on region/sex/school.

-

Lady Platt and Mrs Hurst - Norcross/Smith

GH to write to van Straubenzee

6.

INNER CITIES

Preferred Chairman:

T. Sainsbury

Possible Members: Beaumont-

Dark

J Major J Wheeler Glasgow Hillbead Candidate Tom Baron Clive Thornton Nir j

Deva-Aditya

John Chatfield Lord Marshall Mrs Cawthra

[Cleveland: Mrs Paine?]

7.

POVERTY TRAP/ Possible

HY WORK

Members:

C. Patten

or P. Bottomley

P. Hordern Professor

A. Prest

M. Beenstock

R. Simmonds G. Hooper [R. Gilbert] [L. Fletcher or Sir A Hall] [Professor

T. Wilson].

N.B. Should or could the group cover pensions transferability?

8.

EUROFEAN

COMMUNITY

Possible Members:

4

Latham

W. Hopper R. Jackson Consider

inviting more non-political

as Halstead.

and industrial

names such

9.

NATIONALISED Preferred Possible

INDUSTRIES

Chairman: Members:

Ia - L Watson

' (J")

M. Grylls C. Bland J. Cooper N.

Bishop

W. Barlow D. Alexander

T. Eggar

URBAN TRANSPORT

10.

Preferred Possible

Chairman:

J. Lee

Members:

S. Chapman J. Osborn T

-'-.'s

B. Porter n Mrs Hook J. Hildretb Also consider a Scot or North Easterner,

an IEA author, or Mills(?)

CHOICE

MPS Neale, Marland, T.Smith, Prentice Speed, Steen Tom Arnold, John Lee (Northerners)

) )

Heddle, John Gardner Viggars Tim Smith, Peter Bottomley K.Carlisle Robert Jackson MEP

Whips

Office

Whips

Office

GH notes K. Joseph D. Howell Letter to Chairman

!hers

Sir John C.

Hoskyns

Sheron

ex proprietor Morgan Grampian keen interest in social affairs Guar Nealey,Finance Director, Glaxo

Sbe^

4 al

R^b°_.

Advi Harris,

ser H.M.T.

Se c retary Cl

.per

0

Letwin,

CRD.

N.

Ridley

PJC/Lord

Fraser

CITIES,

LAW

AND

ORDER

MPs Sainsbury, Steen, Durant, Wheeler, Major, Irving Fox,

Latham

Tony

Steen, Silvester, Stevens, Squires Heddle

John

:Major

) )

(Northerners)

Beaumont-Dark, John Lee

John

Stevens

Office

Whips

Office

W.Whitelaw Econ. Secretary

Grant

Sir

Whips

W.Elliot,

Wheeler

) )

Tony

Hutt

D.French (former Housing

Whips

Chairman , Lambeth Committee)

Members Mike

Trueman,

Isleworth (known to

W.Whitelaw B.Hayhoe) it

Sir John Taylor John Chatfield or Harry Purcell Mrs. Shaw (Consult Mervyn Kohler)

(ACC

Police

(Cambridge

Committee) Police

Authority)

to it to

Chief Secretary M.Heseltine Tony Hutt

Simon Jenkins 1\1i rj Deva Aditya Tom Eckersley Christopher Chope George Bailey

Southwark Wandsworth GLC

Tom Baron Ctp(a Thornton

dynamic housebuilder MD Abbey National

M.Heseltine It

Jimmy James John Eccles Duncan MacDonald Jim Goold Leslie Fletcher Norman Quick

RICS Monopolies etc. Chairman NEI Pres. Scottish CBI Chairman Glynwed Main Dealer Ford NW

J. Stanley Econ. Secretary

Special

Adviser

Nicholas

True,

Secretary Tony

Hutt,

CRD.

DHSS

( ex

Home

Affairs

desk)

it to it it

EDUCATION Names

fSee

additional

also

to

those

KJ list attached

already

considered

to letter

of 26 August)

MP s Dunn, Made!,

Hampson, Gardner

Richard

Rumbold,

Simmonds,

Rhodes

James

Whips

Office

) MEP,

EDG

Youth

Affairs

Wrote to C.Parkinson

Members Patrick Minford Headmaster Ampleforth Head,:,istress,Sacred Heart

Convent,Woldingham (Sister Hinds) Professor Fred Crawford (Chancellor of Aston) Ian Clarke (former ILEA Whip and Bow Group Chairman) Roger Ellis (Headmaster, Marlborough College, Chairman, Headmasters' Conference)

Special S.Sexton,

Adviser DES

Secretart' Alistair

Cooke,

-RD

Notes MST (Commons)

D.French Econ. Secretary

ENTERPRISE

MPs K.Carlisle, Watson,

Lee,

Eggar, R_Page, Neubert

Whips

Eden,

Michael Grylls Bulmer Colvin Sainsbury S. Dorrell

P.Jenkin MS(C) D. French GH notes

Bulmer, Cockeram, Colvin, Dorrell, Knox Grist, Hooson, David Hunt, John Major, Richard Needham, Chris Patten, Renton, Sainsbury, Trotter, Waller, John Watson Ian

Lang,

Barry

Fred

Tuckman,

Lord

Boardman,

Me

Office

Henderson

) ) ) )

Patrick

(Scotland)

MEP Lord

Jenkin

Jenkin Carr , Lord

Harmar

-Nicholls

Jenkin

oer

Plar:Stat:aford

(W)

Darwin

(Phillip) Norman Quick Les' ie Fletcher Jie: Goold Sir Mather Jo: n Eccles David Stanley Nigel Vinson John Blundell Duncan Macdonald Edward Denison

J.Raisman Bill Humphries David Cooksey Ian-';Wood Barry Baldwin Jeremy Elwes

Ex Small Business Chairman, NEI (former Leader of N.Yorks solicitor, businessman) Shell St. Helens Trust Advent Management The John Wood Group cf. M.Grylls C.P.C. Chairman

To check also the members Enterprise Zone people. Special

Adviser

Stephen

Sherborne

Dept.

of

FASE

of

group,

Industry

Leo retary Briar.

Jenks

PJC

(ICFC & FASE group) (ex C.P.C Chairman and Investment specialist) Laurence Keen Ford Main Dealer in NW Chairman, Glynwed President, Scottish CBI North West CBI Ex Head Wrightson CBI Development Corporation

Touche

Ross/CRD

and

PJC PJC Econ.Secretary - 11

Dobbs N.Ridley/ J.MacGregor N.Ridley Chief Sec. CC, " F.Pym M.Heseltine J.MacGregor ti P. Jenkin ask

Don

Thompson

, regarding

EEC MP s Haselhurst, Dykes, Luce, P.Mills

Forman,

Gummer, Arnold David Myles, Michael Latham (as a sceptic) David Hunt, Hector Munro David Knox

Whips ) )

Neil Balfour, Fred Tuckman MEPs Sir F. Warner MEP Diana Elles, Robert Jackson MEP David Curry, Will Hopper, Michael John Taylor MEP

Office

Francis

Pym

M.Jopling D.French Chief

Sec.

D. Hurd Welch

MEP

F. Pym PJC G.H.

Mem:Cers

D.French

Bill Stephens Tony Baldry Elie Khedouri Leonard Shapira Lawrence Kelly

Special

11

K. Joseph 11 ( Helical Bar Commission)

Adviser

Secretary E.

Bickha

,

(CRD)

?

Co.,Monopolies

Econ.Secretary

FAMILY

MPs Rumbold, Prentice, Durant Shelagh

Knight, Morris,

Roberts

Bottomley, Mawhinney,

Sainsbury,) T.Benyon

Whips

MEP

E.Howe

Members Jill Miscampbell Rosemary Brown Jacqui Lait

E.Howe

National EOC

E.Howe

Union

it

E.Howe Mrs.

J.Young Pam

See and

Smith,

Mrs.

Ray

Piggott

, Lady

Carnegie

also Lady Young's list of 27 August, of her list of Northern and Scottish women.

Special

Secretary

0

Adviser

suitable

J.Young

women,

Office

NATIONALISED INDUSTRIES

MPs Viggars, Whitney, Colvin, Atkins, Eggar, P.McNair Wilson, Marshall

Whips

Office

D.Kaberry,

Whips

Office

Colvin, Grylls, Neville Ian

M.Shaw Dorrell, D.Hunt, Trotter,

Lang,

Nigel John John

(Northern) Knox, Grist, Hooson, ) Peter Lloyd, John Major,) Waller, Watson )

Barry

Henderson

Peter

D.French Kenneth Carlisle, John Eden

GH

Hordern

Robert

Jenkin

(Scotland)

Forman Heddle, Peyton,

Patrick

Jackson

MEP

note

Econ.

Secretary

Wrote

to

CP.

Members David Alexander Christopher Bland John Redwood Ronnie Halstead Bill Barlow John Gardiner Roger Freeman Michael Bishop Bernard Kelly John Eccles John Cooper Michael Harbour

Special Geoffrey

Group

Rothschild Beecham Thorn EMI, ex PO Laird Group Candidate, works for Lehmann Bros. MD Midland Airways Warburgs Singer & Friedlander BL, former Chairman of Birmingham Bow Group

Adviser Sterling

Secretary Lynda

Selsdon

Rouse,

CRD.

Dept.

of

Industry

N.Ridley Chief Sec. P.Jenkin 1 ,

of It Wrote

to

Econ.

CP

Secretary 11

D.French

UNEMPLOYMENT

See

letter

of

Tim

Renton

to GH,

September

82.

MP s Needham, Townend, Neale I.Mills , Ward , Lewis Peter

Lloyd,

, Renton,

Whips

)

Econ.

J.Townend

Hal Miller, John Blackburn, Beaumont-Dark, D.Knox, Lyell,

Secretary

N.Tebbit

) I.Mills)

MS(C)

Bulmer

Members J.B.Wood Michael

Anthony Dalton Prof.Brian Griffiths Prof. Douglas Hague John Sacher

IEA NW Industrialist by D.Waddington Warburgs City University Manchester Marks & Spencer

Ralph

Harris/ Arthur Seldon

IEA

R. --alste

Beecham

Jackson

ad

Mills

(as

Special

Adviser

Michael

Dobbs

Secretary Dominic

Hobson,

CRD.

N.Tebbit II I,

MS(C)

observer)

Dept.

Econ. Secretary N.Tebbit

t!

Pp lain

recommended

of

Employment

URBAN

TRANSPORT

MPs Waller,

Chapman,

Fletcher-Cooke, Barry Porter, Sims, Shersby, Peter Peter

TempleFry

Robert

Higgins,

Squire

John Osborn (Northern) lain Mills, ) Rice ) Morris

Moreland

MEP

Whips

Office

David

Howell

Douglas French C.Parkinson D.French

Members Tai gel Vinson Leslie Chapman Jan Hildreth

Special John

Econ .Secretary C.Parkinson

Adviser

Hoskyns

Secretary Ka-harine

Marsh,

CRD

11 WHY

WORK

HP s

Ralph Howell, McCrindle

Bottomley,

Budgen,)

Whips

Nicholas Lyell Peter Hordern Peter Lloyd

Office

D.French Tebbit,

Chief

N.Ridley

Sec./

Econ. Sec. Tebbit Econ. Sec. Tebbit Letter to Chairman

Ralph Howell, C.Patten J.Townend Eric Cockeram, Tony Marlow Robert Jackson, MEP

11 'embers Professor Alan Prest Bruce Sutherland Richard Simmonds Nirj Deva Aditya John Wood Robbie Gilbert Brendon Sewill Michael Beenstock W/Cmdr Berisford

Sp ecial M. N. D.

Group/Arthur

Dobbs True French

Mockler

Dept. of Employment DHSS HM Treasury

(CRD)

Anderson

IEA Shell ex Special Adviser Joint Stock banker City University Constituent of N.Ridley

Advisers

Secretary C.

Bow

PJC Offered PJC Tebbit 'I

It

N.Ridley

help

NO

PARTICULAR

GROUP

MP s Wheeler, Mawhinney, P.McNair-Wilson Van Straubenzee, P.Mills G.Walker, Peter

D.Trippier,

Fry,

Robert

Hal

Rhodes

Miller,

James

J.Lee, Nigel

) )

MS

(R)

I.Mills

N.Fowler

Forman

Approached C.Parkinson

CRD

Advisory

Bow

Group,

Board

Members Peter Lord

Lilley Vaizey

Sir Arnold Hall Cecil White Sir P. de Zulueta Jim

Hawker

Siddely,

etc.

11

via

PJC

It

Ackers

Micky

ex

Wiggin

Ronald Ian:

Greenwell

Chairman,

Basingstoke

K. Joseph

Grierson

J.MacGregor

Wood

Ar:hur

George

Econ.

Seldon

Institue of Alan Howarth

D.Howell

Offered

Directors

help

11

Docker

C.Parkinson

Candidate

Peter Joynes Bruce Sutherland Anne Bulloch Nirj Deva Aditya

CRD

Guy

Advisory

Finance

Director

Offered 11 11

11

Nealey

Robert Jackson, W.Hopper, MEP

Secretary

MEP

Director,

Glaxo

11

it to

help